The great Darrelle Revis announced retirement some time ago and the FPC Jets team thought that we might get together for another roundtable after his First Ballot Hall of Fame came into question. And as always, we will be talking about hot new takes, predictions for the season and the latest in Jets news. Remember to follow us on twitter and tweet in questions about the Jets or Fantasy football that you would like for our writer to answer.
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1) Is Darrelle Revis a lock for the Hall of Fame? Will he be a First Ballot?
Kyle: Revis is definitely a Hall of Famer, without question. However, being a First Ballot HOFer is a different story. While he was, without a doubt, the best cornerback in the league for a stretch that lasted multiple seasons, Revis will have some competition when he’s eligible in 2023. For example, Joe Thomas, also eligible in 2023, will be forever known for his sustained greatness in the NFL. This goes for many other players looking to become HOFers in the semi-distant future. Revis’ down years could hurt him in that regard. Tough to say whether or not he will be a first ballot.
Alex: Most definitely a First Ballot Hall of Famer. Yes, he only has 29 career interceptions but you have to look at the rhetoric. Quarterbacks who went up against him and even wide receivers will say he shut off half the field and nobody wanted to throw that way. At best, if you threw the ball over there any QB (even Tom Brady) would be 50/50 at best if they caught the ball. Revis shut down HOFers like Randy Moss, T.O., Future HOFers like Calvin “Megatron” Johnson, Chad Johnson, Ted Ginn, Ochocinco and Steve Smith to make it seem like they were not even in the game. During the 2009 season, he allowed 15 catches for 141 yards, snagged 4 interceptions and allowed 2 touchdowns between these Hall of Famers and that’s with playing Randy Moss twice.
James: If we’re talking based off of pure talent, Revis is unquestionably a first ballot HOFer. However, I can see how he may not be. He has only one Super Bowl ring and only 29 career interceptions. If the voters go off of in-game skill and talent, Revis will be a first ballot HOFer. If they lean more on stats, I can see him waiting a year or two after waiting for the five to get in.
Adam: Without a doubt. Darrelle Revis said it himself. He was a shutdown corner when the term was nearly extinct. He followed teams’ best receivers on both sides of the field and shut down players like Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, and Terrell Owens. There is no excuse for him to not be enshrined in Canton in five years.
Brian: Yes, Revis is hands down first ballot Hall of Famer. Pretty sure you could ask some of the best receivers in the league and they’d say the same.
Anthony: Absolutely. Going down as the lockdown corner of a generation, Revis became a household name. Quarterbacks feared him and his peers aspired to be like #24. First-ballot all the way.
2) This year felt like the end of an era with many former Jets retiring. Which Jet was your favorite player from the 2009-11 era?
James: Thomas Jones. Everyone remembers the elite defense the Jets had, but they often forget just how good Jones was. During the 2009 season, Jones posted 1,402 yards and 14 touchdowns. Those 14 touchdowns are tied for the most in a single season by a Jet, with only Curtis Martin sharing that number. Jones led that group of running backs to having the best rushing offense in the NFL. He was such an electrifying player to watch and he carried the Jets offense.
Anthony: As much as I love Revis, LaDainian Tomlinson is my favorite player of all time. Seeing him rock the green-and-white was a dream come true.
Kyle: This is a tough one. The Jets had quite a few studs back from 09-11 when they made their historic playoff runs. Of course, I’d love to pick Revis as my favorite guy, but that just seems a bit too mainstream. Players like LaDainian Tomlinson, Braylon Edwards, and Santonio Holmes come to mind also. However, with my inability to choose just one of them, I’ll go with Mark Sanchez. Yes, I said it…Mark Sanchez. Though he naturally fell off a cliff, he was really responsible for turning the franchise around, and he did just that (for a short period of time). He was and has been, the only Jet to give the Patriots a run for their money in recent years. I loved that about him. I still get chills about that upset against New England in the 2010 playoffs. Sanchez, man….he did that. He really did that.
Alex: As much as I hate to say it I can not pick one player I love from that time period, David Harris and Revis in their prime, Cromartie, LT, Santonio. But since I have to I am going with the big man himself, Nick Mangold, yeah the actual big man. The Anchor himself. Mangold established himself as the man you want on your team, he single-handedly held the offensive line himself, taking on not one but two defenders and barking orders. When Sanchez was still pre-Butt Fumble he could not read a defense and so he consulted with Mangold or Mangold just yelled out the defense movements. Yes you read right a center was good enough to captain the team and audible people to where they need to be.
Adam: For the sake of not repeating Revis time and time again, considering he was indeed our best player between 2009 and 2011, I will have to go with a personal favorite. Wide receiver Braylon Edwards was somebody my family enjoyed watching him every week. His backflip on the field following the 28-21 upset against the Patriots in the playoffs is a memory that is still fresh in my mind.
Brian: David Harris. The hitman, he was always so reliable and the rock of that defense. Great teammate and great Jet.
3) Which position battle are you most looking forward to going into training camp?
Brian: QB battle. I honestly have no idea where the Jets are going. Gut tells me McCown but Bridgewater could make a run at QB1.
Anthony: The Jets need to find consistency out of their crowded group of receivers. Camp will determine the standouts as well as appropriately identifying who belongs where on the depth chart.
Alex: As much as I want to see the WR battle get duked out between Q, Robby, Pryor, and Kearse I want to see the CB/DB battle between the newbies and the vets on the team. With Perry Nickerson and Trumaine Johnson additions, it will be interesting to see where Morris Claiborne, Buster Skrine, Juston Burris and Rashard Robbinson land on the pecking order. Also to see where J.J. Wilcox and new sign Brandon Bryant where land with Jamal Adams and Marcus Maye still starting.
Kyle: Quarterback is the obvious choice, but I’m really interested to see how the receiving corps plays out. With more than a dozen guys looking to compete, it will be quite entertaining to see who emerges out of the dark. The best (and worst) part is is that they all have some sort of dilemma following them along. Anderson has his legal issues, Pryor and Enunwa are coming off of injuries, and a slew of younger guys are looking to make a name for themselves. We need a reality TV show ASAP.
James: I cannot wait for this tight end battle. The Jets have four tight ends who honestly shouldn’t really be a starter in the NFL. I think one player will stand out from the rest and become a reliable target for Sam Darnold. A tight end is a rookie quarterbacks best friend, and whatever tight end wins the battle can possibly break out. I’m looking forward to seeing what Jordan Leggett has to offer, who was hurt his entire rookie season. I want to see him and Chris Herndon battle it out for reps.
Adam: The Jets have a ton of wide receivers on the roster. I think the battle for second will be one to keep an eye on since it’s quite obvious that Robby Anderson is the number one option. Jermaine Kearse was reliable for New York, and having Quincy Enunwa back provides plenty of depth. It also provides ample opportunity for them to try to best one another, making for one interesting battle.
4) Will Teddy Bridgewater be traded by the beginning of the season? Near the deadline? Or not at all?
Kyle: I don’t think he will be traded…yet. The Jets have a quality quarterback trio which will allow any of the three guys to see success if another doesn’t. The only scenario in which I see Bridgewater finding the trading block is if Darnold has early success. Bridgewater kind of seems like the Plan B QB of the future for the franchise. If Darnold can’t find his rhythm early on, the Jets will lean on Bridgewater and McCown for as long as they can. If the right deal comes around though, and the Jets feel they can maintain success with McCown and Darnold, then I could see it becoming a reality.
Anthony: If you ask me, Teddy Bridgewater should be given every opportunity to win a permanent role as the Jets’ franchise quarterback. Yes, drafting Darnold means that the rookie will take the field at some point. With that in mind, New York is desperate for a quarterback no matter what. To answer the question, however, Bowles and company will move him before the season even begins.
Alex: I think Teddy will be traded but at or near the deadline because the Jets have McCown and Darnold and if Darnold will sign for peat sake then we will have someone for the future hopefully and won’t have through Qbs again. But still the vet McCown can teach Darnold the tips and tricks of the trade but that leaves Teddy out in the cold neither the future nor a worn out product of the system so best bet is to trade him to a team with a rookie Qb they want to keep in waiting until he is fully ready or at least thinks he is fully ready.
James: Bridgewater is such an intriguing topic because his trade value is so dependent on other teams. Bridgewater will be traded at some point, it just depends on when a team’s quarterback goes down. It could happen in this week, or 3 months from now. Who knows. If I had to guess, I’d say he will be traded by week seven.
Great outlook by Teddy Bridgewater (@teddyb_h2o): "I don't know if it’s the best I've felt. I don't know how to really answer that because I feel good every day. I'm alive. Knowing I'm here is a great feeling. Knowing we can do something special is a great feeling. I'm excited." pic.twitter.com/pHj7SfOXXt
— Manish Mehta (@MMehtaNYDN) July 28, 2018
Adam: Teddy Bridgewater is a young, serviceable quarterback that many teams would be happy to have on their roster. That being said, the Jets should look to ship him for any team looking for a potential starter in the future. I would expect the Jets to trade Teddy B later in the year when McCown has eased Sam Darnold into the starting role and having three potential starters is no longer necessary. Keep a close eye on the Chargers and Redskins, who have aging quarterbacks who Bridgewater can replace after learning under them.
Brian: Not traded at all. Bridgewater will eventually play and I feel he will be very good. Once Sam takes over he will be a very good backup if that doesn’t work out.
5) Way-too-Early predictions: Jets 2018 NFL record.
Alex: I am always optimistic about this and I am still on that gravy train. 11-5 – a complete switch from 5-11. After looking the rest of the AFC East the Jets can double tap on the Dolphins and the Bills so that is 4 wins right there. And the Jets can have an easy record with teams trying new things so I’m feeling good about that.
Kyle: 7-9. They’ll improve from a lackluster 5-11 record, but will disappoint by dropping a few close games. Overall it will keep fans on their toes for 2019.
James: I think the Jets will finish 7-9 in 2018. They will win 4 games within the division and will struggle elsewhere, especially in the NFC North games. The Jets got one of the better divisions in the NFC this year and quite honestly may lose against all four of them.
Adam: Hopefully, Darnold will be the quarterback that the Jets have been waiting for. The defense has been upgraded in free agency and in the draft. But the Jets aren’t primed for a huge leap yet. Improvement will be made, but New York won’t be hoisting the Lombardi this year. I expect somewhere between 6-10 and 8-8.
Brian: 10-6. Jets will get off to a hot start at the beginning of the year but run into some tough opponents in the middle and end of their schedule. (Brian)
Anthony: 7-9. A two-win increase from last season, the Jets defense is primed to have a breakout year.
6) With the Jets facing a number legal/drug of problems this offseason, where should the fault for these problems lie?
James: I think it’s clear the players are at fault. However, the front office needs to start taking action. Todd Bowles and Mike Maccagnan need to send a message and punish the next player to cause trouble, no matter what that trouble is. The team can’t just let all these guys walk away clean after an issue. It’s becoming excessive, and it needs to end before it gets too ugly.
Adam: It has to fall onto Todd Bowles. He managed to get Darron Lee whipped into shape before anything came from it, but with Robby Anderson, Jeremy Kerley, Sheldon Richardson, and Muhammad Wilkerson all struggling with off the field issues, Bowles has to get this group whipped into shape. If not, they might as well be renamed the New York Bengals.
Brian: Player. These guys have grown men head coaches aren’t looking after them 24/7. No one else to blame but themselves.
Anthony: Always on the player. A coach can’t control every player, especially before a season as he makes cuts and prepares for Week 1. End of the day, a player digs his own grave.
Alex: I want to say it a problem with Bowles, I mean it is always the player’s fault but it is also the head coaches because he needs to crack down hard on this and force these young men to learn a good ton on being mature. It is fine to be young and have fun but do not go speeding down the parkway in cop chase or continuously get arrested and use drugs. It starts at the top i would say.